Current status: Our PayPal accounts were blocked 3 times - 2x due to an alleged violation of the terms and conditions and 1x on time. Read on to find out more.

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The "short version":

PayPal account blocked three times in a row.
In total, a five-digit number of money was withheld!

That happened to us.

  • 02.02.2021 : All PayPal accounts blocked (1st time) (AUP infringement - copyright infringement).
    - weeks go by -
    Contradictions to [email protected] rejected, employees on the phone sometimes very unfriendly.
    Note: Our service has never violated the rights of others.
  • April-May 2021: Complaint to PayPal ([email protected] - Executive Escalations), unsuccessful. Subsequent complaint to the “CSSF” banking supervisory authority.
  • 08.08.2021 : Re-examination of PayPal (since contact was made via bank supervision) - Approval of the accounts obtained
  • August September : Contact PayPal so that we can make sure not to be blocked again. Customer support reports several times (3 times in total), that the situation has been clarified and that there would be no new blocking
  • 25.09.2021 : Blocked again (2nd time) (AUP infringement - copyright infringement. Same reason.) Employees haphazardly, blame it on the PayPal algorithm, contradictions were rejected without comment. We feel deceived and write another complaint to Executive Escalations ([email protected]) with another announcement to contact the CSSF. Employee who knows my case also writes internally to this department.
  • 08.10.2021 : Email "Your account has been temporarily restricted". Accounts released againuntil December 8th. This email was sent to me on all accounts:

    Hello Lucas Kleipödszus! We recently conducted a review of your use of the PayPal services based on our records. Given the nature of your activities, we have decided, in accordance with the PayPal Terms of Use, to terminate our business relationship with you by giving two months' notice. For this reason, we will permanently restrict your account on December 8th, 2021.

    You can view the complete PayPal Terms of Use by clicking on “Terms and Conditions” in the footer of any PayPal page.

    We urge you to remove all references to PayPal from your website. This not only includes the removal of PayPal as a payment option, but also the removal of the PayPal logo or shopping cart.

    If you have a remaining balance, you can withdraw the money to your bank account. Information on withdrawals from your PayPal account can be found in our Help Center.

    Many greetings

    PayPal

  • 08.12.2021 : Renewed blocking (3rd time in due time).

This is how we were treated at PayPal and this is no joke.


Our PayPal experience

With over 300 million accounts, PayPal is one of the largest payment providers on the entire Internet. Again and again there is criticism against PayPal, including the Consumer protection has already sued PayPal's usage guidelines. PayPal is considered a secure payment service provider - but problems and disputes are becoming more and more common for consumers and sellers. In this blog post we write about our experiences with PayPal, customer service and our blocking of our accounts.

PayPal support hotline: 069 945189832

Complain about PayPal? here there are instructions:
https://web-karlsruhe.de/probleme-mit-paypal/

Reading bad reviews about PayPal on the internet

There are many complaints against PayPal on review portals on the Internet. on Trustpilot the company has 1.2 stars - 85% the ratings are "unsatisfactory" (as of March 12, 2021). In general, it is often reported that accounts are arbitrarily frozen and for 180 days (sometimes longer) to be withheld. Customer service is also criticized, which is said to be difficult to reach or, in some situations, cannot help at all. The German support from PayPal is trying hard, but unfortunately your hands are tied when it is blocked. You cannot reach anyone over the phone to lift the lock. It is always referred to an "internal specialist department". In general, poor accessibility and a lack of communication within the company are criticized on the Internet.

Account blocked without notice - not uncommon with PayPal

One morning we received an email that our accounts were 'about to be closed'. All of our money is withheld and we can never and must never use PayPal again. After initial confusion, this was confirmed to us after a telephone inquiry: The accounts are permanently restricted, the business relationship "has been terminated". Why? Usage Policy Violation. Allegedly. And now? The PayPal account is blocked.

"Account closure initiated" - money withheld for 180 days

In early February 2021, all of our accounts - including private ones - were frozen and made unusable. Send, pay or collect money? Nothing. An automatic email says that PayPal can withhold the money for up to 180 days. In the terms of use, PayPal states that the money can be withheld for up to 180 days allowed to prevent liabilities and to minimize the liability risk of PayPal. We do not know whether this is legal - but it is stated in the terms and conditions. In general, we recommend leaving as little money as necessary in your PayPal account so that you don't have to chase after your money. The lock came very suddenly without consulting or communicating with us, which is why we were very surprised.

PayPal's customer service

Time and again, PayPal's telephone support is heavily criticized. We rarely had bad experiences with the company's telephone customer service. On the contrary: the majority of the employees were very committed and took the time to examine the situation. Unfortunately, the employees could not solve anything themselves on the phone, always referred to the back office or had no authorization to view the reasons for the blocking. Nevertheless, everything that was necessary was done to help us. The commitment was always there.

Particularly noteworthy is the business customer support (Business Support from PayPal), which was always very committed.

Objection to the block - no response from PayPal after 6 weeks

On the first day of the ban (on 02/02/2021) we had already sent an objection to the so-called AUP email. This was recommended to us by PayPal customer service, as PayPal customer service can neither remove the block nor view it in detail. Allegedly, the AUP department is responsible for the locks. We were told the ban was final and not to be challenged. There was never any other answer.

Our previous tips should your ban be unauthorized

  • Try to stick with it. Call PayPal Support: 069 945189832
  • Write emails to [email protected] (even if there is no reply) and explain your situation.
  • Maybe take legal advice and ask PayPal to release your funds.
  • Find another payment service provider.
  • Contact request to [email protected] or [email protected]
  • If you are not (yet) blocked: Never “store” a lot of money on PayPal!
  • If you have been unlocked again, do not use PayPal anymore.

PayPal is very uncommunicative

After weeks we did not receive any information from AUP. We want clearer communication about what the problem is. Why we were banned. That we can explain ourselves. With the AUP e-mail we have been running nowhere for weeks. In every email we have written, we have left a telephone number for queries. There was no personally written email from the AUP Department. We ask PayPal to release our funds and explain our alleged breach of the Terms of Use. There is a misunderstanding - or we were not aware of any guilt.

Note: The above text is from the beginning of March 2021. No contact has been made to this day to clarify the situation.

Update: March 19, 2021 - Rejection one day after internal objection

After weeks of waiting and no response, we raised an objection internally via the business customer service. This was rejected within 24 hours.

We contacted the Executive Office again by email, with a formulated objection, and at the same time we are still waiting for the complaint to be lodged with cfpb / consumerfinance.gov - as we have not violated copyrights or guidelines.

We ask PayPal to check our block again and to contact us if you have any questions. If further information is required from PayPal, employees are welcome to contact us at any time. We will stay tuned and inform you about the further process.

Update: April 2021 - The final statement from PayPal

Dear Mr. Lucas Kleipödszus,
Thank you for your inquiry to PayPal regarding the limitation of your PayPal account, registered with the email address [email protected]
The check of your PayPal accounts shows that they were restricted on February 2, 2021 under the processing number PP-L-XXXXXXXXXX due to the type of use and with reference to the PayPal terms of use. On the same day you were informed that these account restrictions will remain permanently on the PayPal accounts. After re-examining the facts, we confirm this decision.
For this reason, we have terminated the contractual relationship with you with immediate effect in accordance with the “Prohibited Activities and Withholdings” subsection “Actions We May Take If You Participate in Prohibited Activities” of the PayPal Terms of Use. The PayPal accounts are and will remain blocked for any further use.
Customers whose access is permanently restricted due to a violation of the PayPal Terms of Use and PayPal Usage Policy are excluded from further use of PayPal and its services and may therefore not open any new or additional accounts.

Furthermore, we refer to your request to delete your data from the PayPal platform.
As described in PayPal's privacy policy, PayPal adheres to the highest standards of data protection. In Europe, PayPal complies with the general data protection regulation (GDPR).
As part of the strict financial and legal obligations that PayPal is legally obliged to comply with, PayPal must store customer data for a certain period of time to protect against fraud, money laundering and financial crimes. In addition, as stated in the agreements you have with us, PayPal may store your personal data in order to comply with applicable law or to defend us in legal disputes. For legal reasons, no data may be deleted during the retention period.
The retention period for customer and transaction data at PayPal is ten years. This period begins on the date you closed your account or the date of the last significant activity on an open account.
Please note that PayPal will save the data even if your account is closed or limited until the retention period expires. After that, they will be deleted automatically.
If you close your PayPal account, or if it is permanently restricted, as in this case, your data will no longer be processed for the purposes associated with the use of active PayPal accounts. That is, they are only processed when it is essential. Even if we cannot delete your data immediately, it will only be processed to a minimal extent and will be automatically deleted after the statutory retention period has expired. We assume that this is what you want.
Your data is still in this retention period. Therefore, PayPal is currently unable to fulfill your request for data deletion. However, your data will be automatically deleted after this period has expired. Until then, your data will be securely encrypted until they are deleted from PayPal's systems. Thank you for your understanding.
We regret that we cannot delete your data immediately. We hope that the reasons for this can be seen from the information given in this letter. In the event that you wish to pursue this matter further, please contact the data protection authority that oversees us, the Commission Nationale pour la Protection des Données or the National Commission for Data Protection (CNPD). Address:
15, Boulevard du Jazz
L-4370 Belvaux
Tel .: (+352) 26 10 60-1
https://cnpd.public.lu/en.html

You can contact us with further questions at the e-mail address [email protected]

If you do not agree with this final statement from PayPal, you can contact the following offices to submit an official complaint against PayPal:

- European consumer center Germany

c / o Center for European Consumer Protection eV

Bahnhofsplatz 3

D-77694 Kehl

- Commission de Surveillance du Secteur Financier (CSSF)

283, route d'Arlon

L-1150 Luxembourg

Kind regards,

-Name removed-

Executive escalations,

PayPal

We gave PayPal the chance to reopen our accounts or delete our data. Neither option was considered by PayPal. It seems as if everything is regulated internally how to proceed.

That is why we opened a complaint about the CSSF Luxembourg. It cannot be that we have to wait 6 months for our money and we are accused of copyright infringement.

Update: 05/21/2021 - Complaint about CSSF (Luxembourg Financial Supervision)

In response to the email from PayPal that the “accounts remain blocked”, we filed a complaint with the Luxembourg financial supervisory authority.

As of May 21, 2021:

In the aforementioned matter, we refer to your e-mail from May 18, 2021 and
would like to inform you that on May 4th, 2021 PayPal (Europe) S.à rl et Cie, SCA,
asked for an opinion on your complaint. The opinion
from PayPal (Europe) S.à rl et Cie, SCA will not be sent to us until the next few days.
We would like to point out that we are obliged to comply with Article 5 of the CSSF
Ordinance n ° 16-07 on the extrajudicial settlement of complaints established
Adhere to the procedural sequence.

We are curious to see how it goes on and we will keep you posted. We go through each additional higher authority until we get justice. Wait 6 months for your own money? Ridiculous that a corporation “may” or get away with something like that - legally the whole thing is very likely not okay.

Then update the complaint: PayPal took a position on the blocking and communicated the reasons to the CSSF. We then refuted or counter-argued these reasons. Afterwards PayPal was asked for a position one more time. The accounts were then unblocked without further inquiries and without contacting them. But the best part is yet to come - just read on.

Have you also had negative experiences with PayPal?

Through our blog entry, we have reached a lot of people who have experienced the same or similar. Thanks a lot for this!

Feel free to write in the comments about your experiences with PayPal, as a buyer or seller. We are interested in your opinions. Have you been banned too? We are happy to answer and share our experiences with you.

Should we go to court, we will post this case here too!

After 7 months: recovery of the accounts

On August 9th, 2021, after more than half a year, our business account was released again. After a further three days on August 12, 2021, the private account and another business account. It all took a long time, and we weren't told what conclusion they came to - but obviously the blockage that was once set for alleged "violations" has been lifted.

The activation email

25.09. : All accounts are blocked again

On Saturday, September 25th, 2021 ALL accounts were blocked again. Same reason - same procedure. I feel, I honestly say it, kidding. Unfortunately, you can only guess what the whole thing does to me psychologically. I will now go the way that I contact the banking supervisory authority again and then possibly take legal action against PayPal. It cannot be that we are unlocked first and then, despite all the effort, are locked again out of the blue.

Despite contact with Business Support and PayPal via email, etc., our accounts were blocked again. That's enough! We are now commenting again on the Luxembourg Banking Authority (CSSF) and will take legal action if necessary.

October 8th, 2021: Renewed approval + termination of the accounts

The accounts were all released again, with written notice (2 months' notice). Had it happened that way at the beginning, we would not have lodged any complaints. But we do not want to accept this termination because the whole procedure has been very time-consuming up to now. We no longer use PayPal for business purposes!

Here is the termination:

We recently conducted a review of your use of the PayPal services based on our records. Given the nature of your activities, we have decided, in accordance with the PayPal Terms of Use, to terminate our business relationship with you by giving two months' notice. For this reason, we will permanently restrict your account on December 8th, 2021.

You can view the complete PayPal Terms of Use by clicking on “Terms and Conditions” in the footer of any PayPal page.

We urge you to remove all references to PayPal from your website. This not only includes the removal of PayPal as a payment option, but also the removal of the PayPal logo or shopping cart.

If you have a remaining balance, you can debit the money to your bank account. Information on debiting your PayPal account can be found in our Help Center. "

The current status

Our experience with PayPal: Everyone should be aware of the power this company called "PayPal" has on the market. This power defends the company and sometimes treats the customer like dirt. Today is December 7th. and tomorrow will be the cancellation of all three accounts. However, the renewed complaint about the CSSF is still ongoing - as soon as there is news about it, I will publish it here.

One more thing: watch out which big companies you trust. Read the Reviews of PayPal and be aware that PayPal at any time

  1. can block your account (also repeatedly),
  2. Can withhold money,
  3. can withdraw money from your PayPal account (AUP Violation Damages*),
  4. can change the GTC / AUP at any time
  5. has a strong market position and can take advantage of it if necessary.

* PayPal usage policy here: https://www.paypal.com/de/webapps/mpp/ua/useragreement-full#actions-restricted-activities

We would like to point out that this article / contribution is based on our experience and that there are also many other opinions about the company "PayPal".

Has your PayPal account been blocked? Feel free to comment on the post.

Published On: March 12th, 2021 / Categories: Persönliche Meinung/Erfahrung / Tags: , , /

89 Comments

  1. 9c6d2c3b1055612cc2ca6b514f5ae7c9? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
    Lucas March 12, 2021 at 4:15 pm - Reply

    Hello! Have you had a bad experience with PayPal? Let us know!

  2. 61ecf089e44c9b02fdc50dace79ce1d0? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
    Holger Ass March 12, 2021 at 7:48 pm - Reply

    Hello, yes I think you're not the only ones. Unfortunately, it is now more and more the case that your rights only count when you have money. I don't know how it can be that PayPal is warned so often and still nothing happens. I hope you decide to take legal action and can let us be a part of it.

    Press the thumb
    Holger

    • 9c6d2c3b1055612cc2ca6b514f5ae7c9? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
      Lucas March 12, 2021 at 8:20 pm - Reply

      Hello Holger,
      thank you for taking the time to read the article.
      We will definitely stick with it and keep everyone up to date - we know about many other cases and all the complaints against PayPal.
      A large billionaire company exercises its power here because it has a certain monopoly and operates worldwide.

      Regards

      • 0ca9ca965f8f8b48761f2b602be243ff? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
        Bjorn April 28, 2021 at 4:26 pm - Reply

        Hello, we have exactly the same case with our startup (founded Nov. 2020). We received this email unexpectedly on April 27th, 2021. It took us a long time to accept our bank account. Since then only 2 own payments have been made. Thank God we don't have a customer paying via PayPal yet.

        We also had the game with the support, we try it again and again (already received the same computer answer more than 4 times).

        Hope that this arbitrariness finally stops.

        Many greetings
        Bjorn

        • 9c6d2c3b1055612cc2ca6b514f5ae7c9? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
          Lucas May 5, 2021 at 2:25 pm - Reply

          Hi Björn,
          sorry for the delayed comment activation.

          Until we are successful, we will always strive for higher levels. Our complaint is currently on the table with the CSSF (Luxembourg Banking Supervision).
          If this is unsuccessful, the court will proceed. Then we complain.

          Regards

  3. e8eb8d1a509cb25723332b4ddeb7790a? s = 54 & d = mm & r = g
    Ulrich Holthausen March 14, 2021 at 10:14 am - Reply

    Hello

    I am facing the same problem as of today.
    Cause unknown ... no mail received about the lock.
    Consider tune in to magazines like PC-Welt, Chip, c't, and others.

    Sincerely yours

    UH

    • 9c6d2c3b1055612cc2ca6b514f5ae7c9? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
      Lucas March 14, 2021 at 11:04 am - Reply

      Hello Ulrich,

      call the PP Support 069945189832 tomorrow between 9 a.m. and 6 p.m.
      Ask about the reason for the ban. If they tell you more than "You broke the guidelines", you won the lottery.

      Regards

  4. e8eb8d1a509cb25723332b4ddeb7790a? s = 54 & d = mm & r = g
    Ulrich Holthausen March 15, 2021 at 8:19 am - Reply

    Hello

    just called.
    PayPal doesn't need to tell me which payment was disputed. I violated the terms of use.
    So easy……

    Kind regards

    UH

    • 9c6d2c3b1055612cc2ca6b514f5ae7c9? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
      Lucas March 15, 2021 at 9:56 am - Reply

      Hi there,

      Quite typical. I would recommend you to look for another provider. Check out Mollie or Stripe - when it comes to online payments.
      I myself will crush PayPal with my presence until I get unlocked and my money.

      greeting

  5. e8eb8d1a509cb25723332b4ddeb7790a? s = 54 & d = mm & r = g
    Ulrich Holthausen March 15, 2021 at 11:38 am - Reply

    Hello

    It would be interesting whether it is worth founding an interest group to make such practices more difficult / to prevent. Also in court if necessary.

    Thanks, I'll take a look at the alternatives.
    Kind regards

    Ulrich

  6. ada6d55f421a0aebe36747c8177e56ec? s = 54 & d = mm & r = g
    Michael March 17, 2021 at 9:56 am - Reply

    I felt the same way last week. For no reason whatsoever, my account was blocked using the exact same procedure. Since I had 3124 € credit very questionable. The money comes from the record sales on Discogs and can be precisely proven.

    On Saturday, a hotline employee said it could only be a PayPal error because, in his opinion, nothing unusual has happened. He probably suspected a problem with my identity ... I also wondered about it as I uploaded my passport days before when asked to confirm it.

    The staff in the call center are sometimes constructive and friendly and other times brusque and impatient. It seems like the company is blocking the outside world.

    Allegedly, this is now the common method in the USA as well. There are cases in which the amounts are withheld for over a year and beyond.

    Perhaps one would have more chances with a class action lawsuit and public relations than alone?

  7. a955d98b98d77c1c57f1ffaa95840081? s = 54 & d = mm & r = g
    Paul March 17, 2021 at 2:52 pm - Reply

    Hello,

    very interesting article!

    we have been facing the same problem since the end of February. We have been using PayPal for ~ 3 years through a company account. We have <1% buyer protection cases, most of which we have won. The ones we lost were wrongly decided by PayPal. Customer buys a download - downloads it - and opens a case to simply get their money back. Because PayPal does not block the fraudsters ...

    All we get is the email in the same wording. No information from support, the AUP email or whatever ... We have now filed a complaint about consumerfinance.gov in the hope that a real person will look at our account and notice that we have not done anything wrong.

    PayPal is really not a reliable business partner. Unfortunately, so many customers want to pay with it. Otherwise we would never use them. Bad API documentation, no help when it comes down to it, arbitrariness when it comes to blocking and buyer protection.

    I hope that this monopoly will be broken up by better alternatives.

    Please keep us up to date if and how you got your account free again.

    • 9c6d2c3b1055612cc2ca6b514f5ae7c9? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
      Lucas March 17, 2021 at 3:09 pm - Reply

      Hi Paul,

      thanks! I guess PayPal will get screwed up at some point.
      We also lodged a complaint via consumer finance to look.

      It was us for you: Did you get a reason in the blocking email (copyright and trademark law)?
      Yes: It is correct, PayPal makes it easy for itself. Appeal, generated text rejecting it. Such are the experiences so far.

      We said we were working with PayPal to unblock accounts - or at least make money withdrawable. Well, let's see what will become of it. There has now been good feedback on this post, and that is the goal: To make these bans public and to show how the hands are tied even for customer service.

      greeting
      Lucas

      • a955d98b98d77c1c57f1ffaa95840081? s = 54 & d = mm & r = g
        Paul March 18, 2021 at 4:23 pm - Reply

        Moin Lucas,

        thanks for your comment. In fact, our text is even slightly different. We weren't even given a "category" ...

        "The closure of your PayPal account will be initiated.
        After reviewing your account activity, we determined that you violated PayPal's Acceptable Use Policy. Therefore, your account has been permanently restricted and you can no longer use PayPal for corporate purposes. This is permitted under the “Prohibited Activities” and “Actions We May Take” sections of the PayPal Terms of Service. You must remove all references to PayPal from your website (s) and / or auction (s), including removing PayPal as a payment option, the PayPal logo and the PayPal shopping cart. You can no longer use PayPal . "

        For example, if we had trademark law as a keyword, then we could at least explain what was possibly misunderstood at PayPal - but we don't even know that.

        So it remains exciting.

        • a955d98b98d77c1c57f1ffaa95840081? s = 54 & d = mm & r = g
          Paul April 27, 2021 at 9:51 am - Reply

          Status update:
          So for all customers in Europe you can bend consumerfinance.gov. Contact worked out great, but they directly point out that you are generally absolutely not responsible and should please submit a complaint in the EU.

          We did the same and received an answer from the CSSF within 2 weeks. We should send a letter from them along with our complaint [email protected] send ... NOT AUP! If there is no response from CRC within 4 weeks, we can contact you again and the complaint process will then be continued.

          In the meantime, of course, there was no reaction to the previous direct contact attempts with PayPal.

          I can only recommend everyone to send your first email directly to CRC, wait 4 weeks and then send the CSSF directly afterwards, as this can then be done immediately. I feel a bit sorry for the CSSF ... who wants to have the same complaints all the time just because PayPal is so uncooperative. One should really question PayPal's banking license the way they deal with customers.

          • 9c6d2c3b1055612cc2ca6b514f5ae7c9? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
            Lucas April 27, 2021 at 10:21 am

            Moin Paul,
            nice to read from you again!
            Absolutely correct procedure - CRC (Executive Escalations) also threw me off. That is why I am now going the CSSF way. If that doesn't work, I'll file a lawsuit. Fight until the end.

            Can't really be that PayPal violates the banking rules with the statement: "We are not a bank". Yes, PayPal, then hand in your banking license and leave the EU.

            When I asked about whom most of the complaints were lodged with the CSSF, I got an answer. Once you can guess who has the most complaints.

            Greeting,
            Lucas

          • a955d98b98d77c1c57f1ffaa95840081? s = 54 & d = mm & r = g
            Paul May 11, 2021 at 8:21 am

            Status update # 2: We have been unlocked. We were not told why we were blocked at all. We will stay with PayPal for existing services - in the future we will rely on paddles for new projects.

          • 9c6d2c3b1055612cc2ca6b514f5ae7c9? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
            Lucas May 11, 2021 at 9:34 am

            Hi Paul, nice to read!
            After how many weeks / months did all of this happen? When did you get banned?

  8. 4d35ba8ad0df35261461821990819004? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
    Michael March 20, 2021 at 11:46 am - Reply

    The complaint to US consumer protection is quite nice, but what is more dreaded at PayPal is the responsible banking supervisory authority in Europe, namely CSSF (Commission de Surveillance de secteur Financier), Siège: 110, route d´Arlon, L-2991 Luxembourg, E-Mail : [email protected]. Complaints can also be submitted there in German.

  9. fb001961ead10e1082e538bb4789f2ca? s = 54 & d = mm & r = g
    Ivan March 29, 2021 at 12:15 am - Reply

    Great contribution, because you can see how many there are unfortunately today with the same problem. PayPal has become so big that all customers want to pay online via PayPal. A great feature for customers, but merchants are worthless to PayPal, because it's a billion dollar company. That is why they have the power to distribute it so rigorously and to ban every 10th. Now for my case. Last year in June I founded a sole proprietorship and run social media marketing, of course I offered PayPal as a payment method and PayPal also asked me at the beginning to tell them what I was doing specifically and what I should provide evidence of performance. I did this quickly and was released again. Since the business has boomed within 2 months, I decided to set up a UG with the same type of business. After 4 months of selling, I got the email that all my accounts have been blocked and that I will never use PayPal again. At first I couldn't believe what I saw because 100% of my customers paid with PayPal. Now since the beginning of March I have been able to get my PayPal account unlocked again and the toughest time is coming. The company is on the brink, all customers are gone although I offer credit cards, bank transfers and immediate bank transfers. I really don’t wish anything like that and I hope for all of you that you get your accounts back. But inside I really hope that there should be a solution to this problem and that another company should overtake PayPal because what happened was just catastrophic.

  10. 7a66693e07e9910c425f8ec4b596b157? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
    Marcel March 30, 2021 at 3:52 am - Reply

    Hello, same problem with my company. An earlier restriction (last year) was lifted when it was proven where the incoming payments came from, that they were taxed and that the products were legally purchased and the dealers were disclosed. Well, after a few months of growing sales, we received the following email:

    "The closure of your PayPal account will be initiated.

    After reviewing your account activity, we determined that you violated PayPal's Acceptable Use Policy. Therefore, your account has been permanently restricted and you can no longer use PayPal for corporate purposes ... "

    Since many customers prefer PayPal, we had to offer it and most customers also chose this payment method and it became the most popular payment provider in our shop. From testimonials from other shop operators or start-ups, we were already feeling sick from day 1, because unfortunately it is no secret that this payment provider blocks accounts for incomprehensible reasons and you simply cannot do anything about it - the funds are frozen and not available for at least 180 days. The support will not help you, as these are only first-level and therefore have no way of releasing accounts. The positions that can make a difference are generally understaffed and you can wait several weeks or even months for the copy-and-paste answer and in the end nothing has been achieved.

    Paypal trusts 100% on their system and will not do anything to accommodate you, this is the sad truth. Turning to consumer advocates will fizzle out and banking regulators will put your inquiries in filing P. Why this is so is simply explained: You are an insignificant retailer and PayPal is a billion dollar company, why should they stand up for you? Companies of this size try to achieve the status “to big to fail” in order to be able to act worldwide as they want and not as the laws may prescribe.

    The only option, which "we" and "you" will have, is only to apply pressure through legal channels:

    // Quote by https://www.sbs-legal.de/blog/paypal-konto-gesperrt-was-tun :

    “There are two ways in legal proceedings: One way is an action for an achievement. Here one sues for the payment of the funds and, if necessary, the activation of the accounts.

    One can, however, go another way; consider an injunction. As part of a warning, PayPal is asked to refrain from blocking the account in the future. Such a warning can certainly be based on general civil law, possibly also on contract law. More precisely: The right to compensation from §823, paragraph 1 (BGB), in connection with the right of removal and injunctive relief from §1004 (BGB) as civil law. "

    // Quote end
    This is a small ray of hope, but only if you are willing to go through with it.

    From my own experience I can say that there is unfortunately no chance of success if you try to convince Paypal with long texts or phone calls to unblock the account again, you will only go round in circles, as this is on your guidelines will refer. The internal structures of them are designed in such a way that they do not act in a customer-oriented manner or participate in a goal-oriented manner, but rigorously exploit their position of power. They send your first-level slaves to the front, in order to beat you again and again to the guidelines as copy-and-paste until you as a customer give up annoyed and PayPal can manage the frozen funds in the background - whether if you as a customer go bankrupt, who cares.

    Like so many merchants, we can only hope that at some point customers will switch from PayPal to a reputable payment provider, so that one is not constantly exposed to the nuisance of these "monopolists".

    • 9c6d2c3b1055612cc2ca6b514f5ae7c9? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
      Lucas March 30, 2021 at 4:59 pm - Reply

      Hello Marcel,

      I have had exactly the same experience. Lots of ignorant employees, you are referred and in the end it says you know the guidelines. Two employees even advise me to set up a new account. Although that itself is against the guidelines. Funny, is not it?

      My complaint via [email protected] is out - with a demand for the money. I will be unlocked anyway - never - even though I had asked for it, in a statement with business activities, documents, etc.
      I keep everything up to date here. If there is no response from PayPal, I will use the Luxembourg CSSF (banking supervisory authority). If they do nothing, the only option is to wait - or to sue / take legal action.
      I was really happy with PayPal until the day it was blocked. Just out of the blue. I knew that an account had to be checked because a dissatisfied customer had reported me, but I hadn't thought anything about it.
      I think it can happen to anyone. Even PayPal employees say in the hotline - PayPal can and can freeze all accounts at any time - without giving reasons - and withhold money for up to 180 days.

      PayPal uses the power of the monopoly - clearly - to use. I always thought PayPal is a 'different corporation' - but it is only one of the other large corporations. Unfortunately.

      Regards

    • b096793f1db684e691a4446179d128d3? s = 54 & d = mm & r = g
      Ivan March 30, 2021 at 9:07 pm - Reply

      You're absolutely right Marcel. So far I had never heard that PayPal first released the activity or account and blocked it permanently after 4-5 months. State banks wouldn't do that. The biggest problem is that an enormous number of customers pay with PayPal and entrust PayPal, because in the event of a dispute they would get the money back. The biggest annoyance in my case is that I still founded the ug and didn't stay with the sole proprietorship because I thought PayPal accepted my business. A huge problem for me, but PayPal doesn't care at all. They just say we can do this according to our guidelines and that's it. And now my company will not make it to 80% without PayPal, just a catastrophe.

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    Karsten April 14, 2021 at 7:34 am - Reply

    Hi there,
    That affects me right now. My account was closed immediately after a sale or the closure was initiated.
    I hardly had any credit in the account, so the 180-day block is not so important to me.
    Does anyone know whether the closure will be passed on to credit bureaus?

  12. a7a02e9c965d79475a8104e567b42107? s = 54 & d = mm & r = g
    Frank April 15, 2021 at 3:03 pm - Reply

    Hi there,
    Yesterday evening exactly the same for me ... I was informed by email that my account will be closed for violating the terms of use. In particular for the alleged sale of ammunition, firearms, firearm parts or accessories. I've been using this account for about 10-15 years and have NEVER offered anything like this, let alone sold it! An initial request this morning to the hotline did not result in anything ... it was only on the [email protected] Address referenced for the purpose of contradiction.
    I then did it right away and was hoping for an answer soon. After googling and reading your posts, I can probably forget that. This means that my savings of a good 4,000 euros there, which I had saved especially for a certain purchase, are "frozen" for an indefinite period of time, or probably for at least 180 days.
    I have also read that hiring a lawyer doesn't do much good and that Paypal then really gets stubborn. Tomorrow I will still contact my legal counsel and ask whether they have already had experience in this direction.
    I would definitely be very interested in new or further information here!
    Kind regards

    • 9c6d2c3b1055612cc2ca6b514f5ae7c9? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
      Lucas December 7, 2021 at 4:41 pm - Reply

      Hi there,

      i hope you got your money Sometimes PayPal also withdraws the money because of "liquidity damage" ... and "AUP damages".

      Regards

  13. d1259d454a59eee908ceb6748d6f495a? s = 54 & d = mm & r = g
    Benny April 15, 2021 at 6:13 pm - Reply

    Hi there,

    It was exactly the same for me. Account from 2011. Annual sales in the almost millions, but even that leaves PayPal completely cold. The following text was displayed for me:

    You can no longer use PayPal

    It is important to us to offer our customers a secure payment platform. We have seen activity on your account that violates our Terms of Use. For this reason we can no longer offer you the PayPal services.

    The bank details or credit card stored in your PayPal account cannot be removed or used to open a new account. You can still log in and view your account information, but you cannot send or receive money. Any remaining credit will be retained for 180 days. We will then inform you by email how you can withdraw your money.

    I called the hotline several times but only referred to aup. In the meantime they have also blocked my private account with PayPal.
    Here is the communication history:
    01/19/2021 7:30 p.m. Email about account blocking
    January 20th, 2021 I call PayPal in the morning. Then email aup directly
    01/27/2021 Follow Up email to aup
    02/03/2021 Called the hotline because there was no answer. He opened a follow up ticket. Or let's say he said it.
    02/24/2021 Post in the PayPal Community Forum (diputes & limitations)
    04/14/2021 New account opened
    April 15, 2021 New account closed and private account also banned (which has existed since 2009)

    It's really unbelievable what they take out of it. If they would at least be told why the account was blocked.

    Has anyone got an answer from aup?

    Regards

    Benny

    • a7f81d1c6606a8d71683db53412d15fd? s = 54 & d = mm & r = g
      Benny May 23, 2021 at 8:40 am - Reply

      Hi,

      small update:
      May 23, 2021 - Absolutely no reaction from PayPal.

      It's just sad what Paypal is delivering.
      I have now switched to PayPro Global with the payment. Unfortunately higher fees but direct support and, in addition to PayPal, other payment options such as credit card, instant transfer etc .. including sales tax handling.
      I am satisfied so far.

      Regards

      Benny

      • 15212406e6bcdaaf9521615134f2b108? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
        Benny July 19, 2021 at 10:48 pm - Reply

        Next update: The 180 days are over now, but no email has been received that should contain instructions on how I can withdraw my remaining balance. Then I sent a message to Paypal by sending a message (in the login area) that you have 7 days to pay out the money, otherwise the whole thing will go to the lawyer. It's getting really annoying!

      • 15212406e6bcdaaf9521615134f2b108? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
        Benny July 29, 2021 at 6:39 am - Reply

        Hi,

        small update:

        After the 180 days have passed, I have not received an email asking how I can withdraw my credit. I then used the internal message function and asked for a payout within 7 days. No response received after more than 10 days. That's why I contacted support by phone. They then assured me that the remaining balance should be transferred to my account within 5 working days.

        This ends the PayPal chapter for me.

  14. a7ce5b31645d46b94d29791427b0509e? s = 54 & d = mm & r = g
    yusuf May 5, 2021 at 2:09 pm - Reply

    Account also blocked because they want to prevent PayPal from financial damage. Funny, because there is a lot of money in the account. no signs of financial damage. I want my account again.

    • 9c6d2c3b1055612cc2ca6b514f5ae7c9? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
      Lucas December 7, 2021 at 4:38 pm - Reply

      Hi there,

      please follow the instructions from me or the procedure. First complaint to [email protected] and then banking supervision!

  15. b3ce54a45890bed395c247fedfc415bc? s = 54 & d = mm & r = g
    IG May 17, 2021 at 8:04 am - Reply

    Just happened to me too. My daughter sells self-developed software products (extensions for forum software) and individual programming services. The PayPal account was blocked this morning with the reason:

    > Some of your products or services violate the PayPal Acceptable Use Policy. Because of this, you cannot do any further business with PayPal.

    The email says:

    > After reviewing your account activity, we determined that you violated PayPal's Acceptable Use Policy. In particular, the sale of unauthorized file sharing services. Therefore, your account has been permanently restricted and you can no longer use PayPal for corporate purposes.

    Objection is of course out, but I have little hope that they will change anything in their decision. After all, we're talking about PayPal ...

    • b3ce54a45890bed395c247fedfc415bc? s = 54 & d = mm & r = g
      IG May 26, 2021 at 4:49 pm - Reply

      As expected, only one standard response from PayPal:

      > Thank you for continuing to use PayPal. However, we are sticking to our decision that we do not want to start doing business with you again. The reason: If a PayPal account is used very risky, we reserve the right to close this account according to the terms of use.

      I responded with a longer answer. A few hours later I received the same answer (1: 1) as before, but supposedly from another employee.

      I've now turned the tables and just sent my answer again. Let's see when I get the first, individual answer, or whether they just stop answering at some point.

      • 9c6d2c3b1055612cc2ca6b514f5ae7c9? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
        Lucas May 26, 2021 at 5:11 pm - Reply

        That won't do anything - because the answers are always ready-made. You press a macro and the text is sent. With so many closures, they would have a lot to do.
        So: Mail to [email protected] - Give 4 weeks, then turn on CSSF. That's how I did it and now I'm waiting for an answer.
        Incidentally, it is also my turn to take measures with consumer protection.

        • b3ce54a45890bed395c247fedfc415bc? s = 54 & d = mm & r = g
          IG May 27, 2021 at 6:39 am - Reply

          Hi,

          Today I received a different, but equally unsatisfactory answer:

          > Unfortunately we cannot give you the details. Your account is permanently restricted.

          email to [email protected] goes out during the day. Incidentally, the behavior borders on insult (according to § 185 StGB), because in this form it is nothing more than a personal utterance of a negative value judgment (or the assertion of a defamatory fact, i.e. already the limit to defamation). After all, I am accused of a criminal offense, or at least a deliberate violation of their terms of use, but nothing like that is the case. Every product offered is legally absolutely harmless and every sale is properly taxed.

          • 9c6d2c3b1055612cc2ca6b514f5ae7c9? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
            Lucas May 29, 2021 at 10:12 am

            Hi there,

            Super. The more people get in touch and complain, the better it can be dealt with.
            This blog entry will be authoritative for this - I will keep you updated on how I will proceed against PayPal.
            The current status is the CSSF. Let's see!

            greeting

    • 9c6d2c3b1055612cc2ca6b514f5ae7c9? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
      Lucas December 7, 2021 at 4:40 pm - Reply

      Good day,
      sorry for the late reply!

      Yes, this is the PayPal Brand Risk Management approach. They'd rather block 10x too much than 1x too little.
      Let's see how long PayPal can / may go on like this!
      The best thing to do is to complain to the CSSF.

      Regards

  16. 44ab2fc55812c0b156b013ee12378b33? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
    Nicole May 29, 2021 at 10:06 am - Reply

    Hello! I was caught yesterday with the closure being initiated. After only 4 weeks PayPal time. There is 520 € on it. A lot of money for me. For the first two weeks, I always transferred the money to my bank account very quickly because I was suspicious. But not to PayPal, more to my customers. Then I didn't do that anymore, because they said PayPal helps with problems. I read 3 hours yesterday when I came across this blog.
    I am appalled by what is going on at PayPal and am still trying to understand that!
    Now I am considering whether I should defend myself against emailing / calling PayPal at all, if in most cases it does not work. A lawyer is hardly worthwhile for me, because I have legal protection verse in my. almost € 300 deductible. And on the PP account are € 520.

    I urgently need something like PP for my 2nd job. Is there any other way? I don't want to give my bank account details to my customers for the online service. How do you do this? Do you have an idea? It would have to be something that many customers would then participate in.

    • 9c6d2c3b1055612cc2ca6b514f5ae7c9? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
      Lucas May 29, 2021 at 10:11 am - Reply

      Hi Fable,

      write a complaint about the ban [email protected].
      You then send the reply to the email to the CSSF and write a complaint about it.
      This is the most effective way to currently act against it, in addition to the judicial way.

      PayPal alternatives: Stripe, Klarna

  17. 92dc299cde9213b21f9e5f08205defd1? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
    Fredo June 1, 2021 at 12:36 pm - Reply

    Hello. We are medical device dealers and mainly sell orthopedic syringes based on hyaluron. Business did well in the first few months via Google Shopping. Our customers' main means of payment, of course - PayPal. At the beginning of May our GmbH received the notification that the closure of the PayPal account had been initiated. The account was deactivated with immediate effect and the money on it was "temporarily" frozen. No reason and no deadline. From one day to the next, the account was simply closed. The most concrete feedback that we have received on multiple requests was that there is too high a risk with regard to the business relationship with us and that PayPal reserves the right to have the account irrevocably blocked. Now, of course, it seems reasonable to assume that orthopedic syringes may violate any PayPal usage guidelines. The whole thing gets spicy because there are other online shops that sell exactly the same products as we do and (lo and behold) also use PayPal as a payment service. So this only reinforces the impression of an indiscriminate blocking of our account. We don't actually sell anything that other online stores don't sell too. And by refusing to comment on the specific reasons for the closure, the whole thing gets a rather bland aftertaste.

    It's incredibly bitter. We will now also try to send an email to the CSSF or to consumer protection. But we don't have much hope at this point. Now it's time to wipe your mouth and ... see how and whether you can continue. However, if 9/10 customers have used PayPal as a means of payment, this is of course a huge leak that needs to be plugged first.

    You are not alone.

    • 9c6d2c3b1055612cc2ca6b514f5ae7c9? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
      Lucas June 1, 2021 at 12:37 pm - Reply

      Thank you, Fredo, for your experience.

  18. 78a13425e15f2616052c67028786c2e1? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
    Christoph June 2, 2021 at 6:32 am - Reply

    Hi! It also caught me on May 18th, 21st. Receive an email with "The closure of your PayPal account is initiated". After more than 10 years only with the information that I had violated PayPal's usage guidelines. Not even an exact category against which directive was mentioned. Called the hotline on the same day, but of course got stuck here. The support lady said she was filing an objection internally for me and I should receive a message within 2 days. After nothing happened on 05/20/21 message to customer service was written through the messaging system in PayPal account with objection. This was rejected within 24 hours with a generated text.
    Then I came across this blog entry while searching the Internet. This helped me a lot, even with the knowledge that I am not alone with this problem.
    Then on 05/21/21 email with objection / complaint to [email protected] and [email protected] written.
    On 05/26/21 the objection was submitted [email protected] rejected with the same generated text as before. (This message was received in the message system in the customer account, but the quoted text was the mail to [email protected] was sent)
    How is the answer from the [email protected] look? So which email address is it sent to and is it answered here with a complaint or an individual text?
    This morning I have an email from [email protected] obtain. The content was the same generated rejection as before with the contradiction via the messaging system to the customer service and the [email protected]. Is that the answer of the [email protected]?

    • 9c6d2c3b1055612cc2ca6b514f5ae7c9? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
      Lucas December 7, 2021 at 4:36 pm - Reply

      Dear Christoph,

      sorry for the late reply.
      It was exactly the same for me! Messages to the "back office" or the "specialist department" are sometimes not processed at all, ignored and internal tickets are automatically closed. Departments don't communicate with each other.
      A complaint to [email protected] An Executive Escalations or Timothy Minall is a good solution. Then forward this final answer, which comes within 30 days, to the banking supervisory authority CSSF (Luxembourg) and write why you are dissatisfied. Everything else is on the CSSF website!

      [email protected] is the back office or Brand Risk Management (AUP)

  19. 831a4fe5a402fb4f17920acc1c036f8a? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
    Torsten June 4, 2021 at 12:48 pm - Reply

    Hello, everyone,

    with us it is similar and then it went even worse. First, the usual described here several times. Ban for no reason. No chance of activation. Just under 10,000 EUR frozen. We considered filing a lawsuit, but ultimately decided to sit it out. The 10,000 EUR hurt, but luckily it was manageable. Our naive thought: after 180 days we will get the money and then never never again PayPal.

    Well, unfortunately it was nothing. At the end of the 180 days, our credit was booked out. Path. Transfer to PayPal with the note "Compensation". When asked by support: "I don't know, it only says compensation, I don't see any more". We should please contact the AUP, which never answered.

    It's really adventurous what's going on. There is no information or evidence that PayPal has suffered any damage. Not to mention a court judgment.

    We will now take legal action.

    • 9c6d2c3b1055612cc2ca6b514f5ae7c9? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
      Lucas June 4, 2021 at 1:01 pm - Reply

      Hello Torsten,
      thank you for taking the time to share your experience here. We were also detained over € 20,000 and we are still waiting for money.
      My tip: Mail to [email protected] - and inform the CSSF at the same time. PayPal will never let you look into your cards - let alone change something. So complain about the banking supervision - and also let us know what the legal process looks like and what happened next.
      We will gather all the information.

      Regards

  20. 282217f1c59ca41e0b8438e03a19e0c8? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
    Dajana June 7, 2021 at 7:23 pm - Reply

    Hi there,
    I also unfortunately just got the case to have been banned. Actually, I wanted to complete an online purchase only with payment via PayPal and hey presto, after the system did not react and I tried again, I allegedly violated the terms of use and my PayPal account was blocked. The telephone service cannot do anything and from the email address aup @ Paypal…. not even a confirmation of receipt comes back! That was a good 4 weeks ago and nothing happened! Of course, I can't get my credit balance either.

    • 9c6d2c3b1055612cc2ca6b514f5ae7c9? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
      Lucas June 7, 2021 at 7:26 pm - Reply

      Hey
      My condolences and welcome to PayPal's service wasteland!

  21. bfc2957ce7c5a386b6ece4b054e788ac? s = 54 & d = mm & r = g
    Kerstin July 14, 2021 at 10:43 am - Reply

    Hello, everyone,
    First of all, a huge thank you to Lucas and all the writers for your experiences and help! One of our PayPal accounts (Business Account) was also blocked from now on and the closure initiated. All of the possible procedures and possibilities of objection described in the PayPal email did not work. The PayPal business customer service could not help us either, the links mentioned lead nowhere. Other contact, objection or clarification options are either not possible, not available, or the service employees have no authority.

    I then wrote to crc @ paypal as you described, asking for verification and activation, explaining what we sell in the shop, asked to find out which transaction was the reason that we were blocked and right away with my next step - the complaint to the CSSF - announced. After a few days, a non-automated email actually came back from PayPal that my request had been passed on and that they would get in touch. In the meantime, I can contact you if you have any further questions [email protected] turn around. I gritted my teeth, knowing that some customers might drop out ... Unfortunately, this payment method is very popular. The day before yesterday I surprisingly received the information that our account has been unlocked, they apologize for "any inconvenience" (very funny) and I can use my PayPal account as usual. VICTORY! Thanks you guys!

    Again summarized the timing:
    2.7. Closure was initiated, several attempts to get help through the service on the same day
    3.7. mail to [email protected]
    7.7. Notification of forwarding to the Executive Escalation clerk
    13.7. Activation

    I do not know why the account was blocked and why - fortunately for us - the blocking was withdrawn "promptly".

    One more thing that might help others: The email about the unlocking mentions this possibility of complaint:

    "If you do not agree with this final statement from PayPal, you can contact the following offices to submit an official complaint against PayPal:"

    European consumer center Germany
    c / o Center for European Consumer Protection eV
    Bahnhofsplatz 3
    D-77694 Kehl

    Commission de Surveillance du Secteur Financier (CSSF)
    283, route d'Arlon
    L-1150 Luxembourg

    Thank you very much again for your information, it is really time that people learned more about this arbitrariness!
    Many greetings,
    Kerstin

    • fc7aa46f2d6979a81335b1bc3ab867a8? s = 54 & d = mm & r = g
      tradestr GbR August 24, 2021 at 1:39 pm - Reply

      Hey
      unfortunately it hit us today too. I save the words, because it is absolutely the same as with everyone else. Completely for no reason :(.
      Would it be a problem if you shared the mail you wrote? It seems to have been very effective.
      Thanks and best regards
      Jörg

      • 9c6d2c3b1055612cc2ca6b514f5ae7c9? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
        Lucas December 7, 2021 at 4:28 pm - Reply

        Hi,
        that depends on the individual case.

        Regards

  22. 40880a09d59ecdc1d61ef4a9d96c08e5? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
    It he July 20, 2021 at 6:00 am - Reply

    Hello 👋🏻

    Unfortunately, the day before yesterday, my PayPal business account was also blocked, for a nonsense reason, supposedly we would sell cigarette tobacco products through PayPal, although we don't even have anything like that in our range. We have been working successfully with PayPal for 2 years, we make 6-digit sales every year via PayPal, so far we have also been totally satisfied with PayPal.

    80% our customers pay via Paypal, and our sales have now collapsed.

    Our credit was also blocked for 180 days, luckily it was only € 2,000

    We are currently at the end of our nerves.

  23. 6cc20fa6f6753dc04ac7e335168fe737? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
    Leon July 30, 2021 at 9:25 am - Reply

    Yesterday I received my permanent block because of the alleged violation of the terms and conditions.,.
    Yes, yes ... because 98% of my customers pay via PayPal, the big doldrums are coming towards me.
    Thanks for nothing. I'm curious how it all turns out.

    • 9c6d2c3b1055612cc2ca6b514f5ae7c9? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
      Lucas December 7, 2021 at 4:24 pm - Reply

      Hi Leon,
      yes, typical. PayPal takes advantage of its position of power in the market.

      Regards

  24. 8f80f40e8145d82e4a49f7356bd148dc? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
    Muht August 16, 2021 at 9:42 am - Reply

    Hi there,
    I am a private buyer and unfortunately had to find out the day before yesterday that my PayPal account has also been closed. Unfortunately, I can't explain why it came about either. Of course, I immediately contacted aup @ paypal, but the experience here shows me that I shouldn't expect an answer. How should I go about it?

    Thank you and best regards
    Muht

    • 9c6d2c3b1055612cc2ca6b514f5ae7c9? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
      Lucas December 7, 2021 at 4:23 pm - Reply

      Hello Muht,

      Step 1: complain to [email protected] (to Timothy Minall)
      Give 30 days
      Then complain to CSSF (Luxembourg)

  25. 62aa0ff0d475393fe9f81561b062c697? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
    insomnia September 24, 2021 at 9:10 am - Reply

    With all the data storage madness from PayPal, one should not fail to mention the proximity to the American NSA via the subsidiary Palantir.

    Data storage laws are certainly an argument, but more significant is the almost complete screening of payments made via PayPal.

    Therefore, there are now much better alternatives that are really data protection compliant and far less complicated than Paypal - Barzahlen.de, for example.

    • 9c6d2c3b1055612cc2ca6b514f5ae7c9? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
      Lucas December 7, 2021 at 4:14 pm - Reply

      Hi there,

      thank you for the contribution!

      Lucas

  26. cf4dcf39fc6179d035eee7b022624143? s = 54 & d = mm & r = g
    Nate October 19, 2021 at 11:03 am - Reply

    Here is the same case today, alleged violation of the conditions of use. I've gone through this 3 times now and can't find any errors, even under Prohibited Activities, nothing. When asked for the reason, you get the same answer over and over again ..... violated the usage guidelines.

    Called customer service in the morning, they didn't want to give an email address, but referred me to the message function in PayPal.
    There you are left standing in the void.

    • 9c6d2c3b1055612cc2ca6b514f5ae7c9? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
      Lucas October 19, 2021 at 11:09 am - Reply

      Hi there,
      yes that is the usual.
      Best of all [email protected] write a complaint (to Executive Escalations).
      If nothing happens, contact the banking supervisory authority (CSSF).

  27. a6f9a0e4c3a4b6f08ab630cae602ec32? s = 54 & d = mm & r = g
    Wapy October 24, 2021 at 10:44 am - Reply

    Hello Lucas e.al.

    My experience report:

    I have been using PayPal privately for payment since around 2000. At that time still on eBay and in Germany with a Barclays credit card ...

    By 2020, with an estimated 2000-3000 payment transactions, everything ran smoothly with around 1,000 eBay purchases, around 1,000 'standing orders' (Skype, subscriptions ...) etc.

    My wife also had a PayPal account. I no longer know whether I set up that or PayPal. Never used, but somehow linked to my account, as a joint account with a bank in D.

    In all these years only one complaint, someone had sent the wrong goods and was stubborn at first, but was then reimbursed via PayPal, which was a bit tedious.

    Then in 2020 suddenly on a Friday in the middle of the night a direct debit of exactly € 60.00 was made to my wife's account that was never used.

    Definitely nobody else knew this account except me and PayPal! No one could be reached at PayPal until Monday. Several days easily 2 dozen unsuccessful chats / emails / calls with PayPal.

    Just stupid excuses and no information about the 'seller' or a suitable account statement ... data protection and Blafaselsülz.

    After several days I got an excerpt from the service of my credit card bank after a long back and forth (data protection), with some completely unknown Greek name and a booking number: "35314369001 DEU" and exactly € 60.00.

    This number "35314369001 DEU" was searched on Google and 1,140 hits. Always with the same number: 35314369001 from several countries and any debits and other texts. But always have this number with you.

    When I then got energetic at PayPal and pointed out the thousands of Google hits with this number and several different years and threatened with a lawyer. The money was paid back to me and my account (not my wife's!) Was blocked. Without further information. I then later deleted my wife's account without any problems. However, mine is permanently blocked. Thank heavens, with a balance of € 0.00.

    My guess is that this special number (test number?) 35314369001 runs through all controls and safeguards at PayPal and thus allows fraudulent employees to tap into any accounts at PayPal.

    PayPal is obviously unable or unwilling to close this back door. Because again, only I and PayPal knew this Konnto, not even my wife. And at night at 2:00 am we sleep and are guaranteed not to place an order.

    • 9c6d2c3b1055612cc2ca6b514f5ae7c9? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
      Lucas December 7, 2021 at 4:13 pm - Reply

      Hi Wapy,

      thank you for your experience.
      I will update my post here soon.

      Regards

  28. e063a6dd463c572c7ac32d44d0a91fc4? s = 54 & d = mm & r = g
    Reinold Messma November 5, 2021 at 6:30 pm - Reply

    Gladly another testimonial from a private person: As a private person, I sold a few silver spoons of low value on ebay as part of an estate liquidation and offered PayPal as a payment method - as was very common on the ebay platform until recently. That was an INCREDIBLE MISTAKE, because in its usage guidelines PayPal lists the "trading of [...] precious metals" as "activities that require authorization". As a user of such a payment service you have to know that, of course! Several things are strange about this:
    (1) The companies "ebay" and "Paypal" share a common corporate history. It would be “nice” if ebay would point out this pitfall to its customers when placing articles in such “sensitive” categories.
    (2) Paypal processed the "non-permissible payment" according to their terms of use and subsequently blocked the account in the style of a spam mail. A real credit institute would inform the customer that the payment will not be made - although I do not believe that the private sale of a few silver-plated spoons for 40 euros violates the terms and conditions of a German district savings bank ...
    (3) The company PayPal cannot be reached in writing or by post. This company NEVER took notice of my objection.
    Tips: Avoid using PayPal if possible, because it creates “pitfalls” that private individuals (and business customers hardly - as your case shows) can overlook. Who uses PayPal: Immediately withdraw any credit on the PayPal account from there. Do not use a credit card as a payment medium because it is more inflexible than a current account (debiting of credit is not possible).

    • 9c6d2c3b1055612cc2ca6b514f5ae7c9? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
      Lucas December 7, 2021 at 4:12 pm - Reply

      Dear Reinold,

      Thank you for your contribution.
      I have had exactly the same experience: You are blocked, communication does not take place and there is no (or bad) internal communication.

      Regards

  29. ede0d9a5182a40e5380295f41d1b59fb? s = 54 & d = mm & r = g
    Dominik Weller December 7, 2021 at 4:02 pm - Reply

    Since today my PayPal account has also been closed. After I submitted my provisional identity card yesterday, I get the notification today (so far no email or something like that) You can no longer use PayPal, you have violated the terms of use.
    I have never done anything that would have violated them (I read through every pin again. The lady from the telephone support was also incredibly rude and rude, almost yelled at me. When I said I would like to speak to her superior, it means: He is not in the house but if I want she will leave him a call back, but she cannot tell me when this will be.
    There are 649 € credits on my Paypal that I urgently need and now I should wait 180 days for no reason? That just before Christmas ......
    I'm also currently writing an email to the AUP email address with the contradiction, even if I have no hope after what I've read here.
    But I will also take every step that is available to me.

    • 9c6d2c3b1055612cc2ca6b514f5ae7c9? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
      Lucas December 7, 2021 at 4:11 pm - Reply

      Dear Dominik,
      that's the strict, cool approach of PayPal. No information, just a lock.
      I have more information that I will gradually add.

      The best thing to do is to write an official complaint [email protected] (to Timothy Minall) and you will receive an answer within 3-4 weeks. If you are dissatisfied, you forward this to the CSSF. The CSSF monitors PayPal and the entire financial sector in Luxembourg, including PayPal.

      I am currently in my second complaint, tomorrow all my accounts will be blocked again.

      Regards

  30. 8f368473a1d411e90fb1933d82f8cfb5? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
    David Rieger December 31, 2021 at 4:36 pm - Reply

    Hello Lucas, it caught me too. I am a private user and tried to buy an item on ebay classifieds last weekend. I even received a notification via the PayPal app as to whether I really wanted to carry out the transaction. Honestly, I didn't think anything about it because I relied on buyer protection. The payment was reversed by PayPal on the same evening and I received a warning via ebay classifieds the following day that I should not make any payment. At the same time I received a request from PayPal to file my ID, an account statement and a statement about the last 4x PayPal payments. The check lasted two days and received the information about "The closure of your PayPal account will be initiated". I then contacted customer service by phone. There it said that there was probably a problem with the ID check. An objection was initiated. Today I received another message that the opposition had been rejected. Since I only have a double-digit amount in the account, and I really only use this account for private purposes, the whole thing doesn't hit me as hard as some other users here. However, I find the way pretty tough. In the end I get punished for using PayPal. Unbelievable!

    • 9c6d2c3b1055612cc2ca6b514f5ae7c9? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
      Lucas December 31, 2021 at 4:42 pm - Reply

      Hi there,
      Yes, the behavior is again typical for PayPal. Write a complaint [email protected] if you want to go through the trouble Then to the bank supervision.

      Happy New Year

      greeting

  31. 77df83297a5154b2c38651adcb00a64a? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
    Yom January 10, 2022 at 4:08 pm - Reply

    First of all, thanks for the detailed article. Unfortunately, I have had similar negative experiences with PP, my account was also blocked.

    But I still have one question, what about the money that is frozen on PP? Will this be released for debiting after 180 days at the latest, despite the final block? And can you then debit it normally to your account?

    Because that would be the height now if I never see it again ...

    • 9c6d2c3b1055612cc2ca6b514f5ae7c9? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
      Lucas January 11, 2022 at 12:00 am - Reply

      Hello Jom,

      PayPal writes about this in its own terms and conditions:

      - "A violation of these Terms of Use constitutes a violation of the PayPal Terms of Use applicable to you (see the section Prohibited Activities, Withholdings and Flat Rate Damages of the PayPal Terms of Use)."

      (…)

      "If you use your PayPal account primarily for your trade, business or profession and violate the usage guidelines:
      you acknowledge that for each violation of the Acceptable Use Policy, you will pay $ 2,500 (or the equivalent in the currency of the country in which you are a resident):
      (…)
      "We can deduct such damage directly from your PayPal balance."

      As a result, PayPal may be able to withdraw the money if you have used your account primarily for your job. This has already happened in many cases - just google “PayPal aup damages 2500”.

      Regards,
      Lucas

  32. d4d30a3e085845b230a5d955dc1ccd1f?s=54&d=mm&r=g
    Hassan January 15, 2022 at 1:26 am - Reply

    PayPal blocked account and withheld money for violating their terms and conditions. money is gone Per Violation 2500$. Paypal expropriated me for €12,500.

    • 9c6d2c3b1055612cc2ca6b514f5ae7c9? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
      Lucas January 16, 2022 at 10:37 pm - Reply

      Hello
      sorry to hear that
      Please follow the instructions on aupdamages.com to get your money back. Otherwise, wait for the class action lawsuit

      You can also consult an amwt

      greeting

  33. e28b78cd0dd8f0c7de4babd36ce6e22c?s=54&d=mm&r=g
    Sarah January 16, 2022 at 10:26 pm - Reply

    Hello – Thank you very much for this useful page and the informative comments. Well, it seems this is a new one here: I set up an account last year, didn't use it, accessed it last week to close it and boom - You can't use PayPal anymore...We noticed activity on your account that's inconsistent with our User Agreement...yada. Of course, I'm unable to close it.

    To reconfirm: there is NO activity on my account. None. The account was set up without issue, so there cannot be anything wrong with the account information.

    Further, I had a PayPal account in a different country for many, many years without issue (I closed it last week voluntarily, because I was fed up with PayPal's awful CS and afterwards, I tried to close this banned account – which is when I discovered this ridiculous situation). As per everyone else, I just get cut & paste emails from CS. I know that if you have financial transactions on any account (not just PayPal), then it needs to be kept open for 10 years – but any other financial institution I have dealt with will let you close your account if there is no activity. Not good old PayPal. They want to keep an account open for 10 years with absolutely no activity on it. Glorious.

    Thanks to this page, I emailed [email protected] today, explaining that all I want to do is close my account and never use PayPal again. Let's see what happens...

    Thanks to PayPal and their behavior on both accounts, I am close to a nervous breakdown. I really feel for people who had money in their accounts; I hope you get it back.

    • 9c6d2c3b1055612cc2ca6b514f5ae7c9? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
      Lucas January 16, 2022 at 10:39 pm - Reply

      Hi Sarah,

      Hope you're well!
      If youre from the US, you need to contact [email protected] – otherwise its the [email protected].

      Please keep updated about Paypal via the news, the lawsuit is ongoing.
      aupdamages.com

      Lucas

  34. e28b78cd0dd8f0c7de4babd36ce6e22c?s=54&d=mm&r=g
    Sarah January 17, 2022 at 8:20 pm - Reply

    That link is really helpful, thank you Lucas and there are some really useful steps there that I will follow. I cannot believe some of the stories on here; I cannot believe a financial organization can - essentially - steal people's money on a whim. It's unfathomable. I hope you are all successful in getting it back

    • 9c6d2c3b1055612cc2ca6b514f5ae7c9? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
      Lucas January 17, 2022 at 8:23 pm - Reply

      Hey Sarah again,
      hope you're doing fine!

      Yeah, I can't believe it either. It frustrated me that they banned my account without any reason, and never cared about me. How can a financial organization - in Europe even a BANK - do that to a customer. It threw me into a psychical mess and I was really bad for weeks.
      I hope you will solve your matters with them – if you have questions, also feel free to contact me via WhatsApp +4972296979358

      Greetings!

  35. e28b78cd0dd8f0c7de4babd36ce6e22c?s=54&d=mm&r=g
    Sarah January 18, 2022 at 1:11 pm - Reply

    Thank you Lucas. I completely understand the mental burden this must have caused. The worst part is feeling powerless.

    I would encourage everyone with PayPal issues to have a look at aupdamages.com and also to click on “Discord Server” there (top right), to join the discussion forum. There is some really interesting discussion on there, including from those taking part in the law suit and from Lucas. If nothing else, it helps to share your issue.

    I read the law suit submission and was shocked that one of the plaintiffs had over $100,000 stolen from him by PayPal. This has to stop

  36. 97060dfca9d5c9a040b1d234e57323bd?s=54&d=mm&r=g
    GL January 25, 2022 at 1:22 pm - Reply

    Exactly the same crap for me, allegedly violating the usage guidelines... total nonsense!
    weird club

    • 9c6d2c3b1055612cc2ca6b514f5ae7c9? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
      Lucas January 25, 2022 at 1:24 pm - Reply

      Hi,

      apparently they do it on a large scale. Just hope you don't have any credit in your account.

      greeting

  37. c2fea10efc23383910de49f9dc8a14b5?s=54&d=mm&r=g
    Jens Eckervogt April 6, 2022 at 8:01 am - Reply

    Hi Lucas, my goodness PayPal is so stubborn. When I'm deaf I complained to the community on PayPal that I couldn't make calls well because I'm deaf. I wanted to transfer my money from PayPal to my girlfriend in the Philippines using Xoon. My girlfriend and I have been meeting at Manila Capital Airport ( NAIA ) since June 2015 and I have already met her extended family. That means proof. And after the money transfer solution on Xoom I discovered and I think cheap is good. And happened Xoom own months ago and declined against my transfer and I dealed (transferred around) via Wise (TransferWise). And I'm surprised that PayPal's new transfer option to GCash, a Philippine capital company (looks similar to a German checking account) and I've often argued with PayPal that I wasn't good on the phone. How should I account for PayPal because I can't do with phone. But I only write email or SMS to PayPal. I find it arrogant that PayPal has banned me from making transfers using Xoom. I have not violated any PayPal Acceptable Use Policy. I only violated NR on Xoom that PayPal didn't believe me if I sent the money to scammers. That's wrong. My girlfriend from Philippines is not a scammer but she is legal Filipina and she loved me very much. I'm disappointed that PayPal is typically arrogant. But I find successor Wise or Skrill
    Wise can be transferred:
    Wise to Wise
    Wise to bank account or GCash
    Wise to pickup destination similar to Western Union
    Bonus for Booking Website for Inexpensive Flights.

    Skrill behavior is like Philippine website coins.ph
    Skrill can be transferred:
    Skrill to Skrill
    Skrill to bank account or cryptocurrency but I haven't seen yet if Skrill has no connection with others like GCash ( within EU only )

    I think it's a shame that PayPal ruins everything. Kind regards, Jens Eckervogt

  38. f69ca29c41f998f3aaeb6ba64b53e076?s=54&d=mm&r=g
    Piotr April 11, 2022 at 5:24 pm - Reply

    Dear Lucas,
    now our family business has caught a PayPal ban (no conflicts and over €3,000 frozen). On March 29th we received the following e-mail "We still need some information from you." - All submitted on the same day. Followed up by phone every day. Depending on "luck", a clever employee was drawn and the process discussed.
    – Until April 5th, it was said that the block would be removed automatically after 72 hours and the account would be free again, or manually by calling.
    - From April 6th, the telephone business customer support cannot obtain this activation - only the back office.

    Constantly dropping the line in the queue or forwarding loop seems to be a norm with PayPal. Nonetheless, I spent almost 2 hours on the phone each day trying to get any meaningful answer. Also a confirmed and not a complete different than the day before.
    Today, April 11th, I checked by phone and finally received something in writing, meaning that the case department has released it and is processing it very promptly. What "promptly" means hours, days or even weeks is not limited. Because when I called, I was told that such a ticket now has a processing time of 142 hours.

    Thanks to you I will wait until Wednesday to make a complaint [email protected] send and go the recommended way. With us, too, customers pay over 80% via PayPal. This is an absolute monopoly position and we are definitely considering any legal step 1. to get our money free and put PayPal in the legal barriers. A European banking license must also fulfill the values and responsibilities of a regular bank.

    As entrepreneurs, we are used to and want to work in a timely and transparent manner. PayPal probably has its own rules here.
    For me, a blocking of the credit borders on a temporary expropriation without a court order.

    Friendly greetings to everyone

    • 9c6d2c3b1055612cc2ca6b514f5ae7c9? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
      Lucas April 11, 2022 at 9:00 pm - Reply

      Hi there,
      thank you very much for sharing your experience.
      I can confirm that the "performance" of customer service often depends on the employee behind it. This “back office” that we are talking about is the Risk Analysis and BrandRisk department.
      I can also confirm that calls drop off very often, especially with "Your connection is on hold", after a while (3-5 minutes) you are thrown off the line. I too have had to experience this more than 10 times. No joke.
      I point out that a complaint about [email protected] has a processing time of 2-4 weeks. And there is no guarantee that the restriction will be removed.

      The CSSF in Luxembourg has a complaints procedure that you can use if your complaint via the CRC email was unsuccessful. This further complaints procedure then takes another 4-12 months, sometimes longer.

      Regards
      Lucas

    • 278b134b2a91de6beaafad300d4530ec?s=54&d=mm&r=g
      David Kammerer May 1, 2022 at 10:26 pm - Reply

      Hey 👋🏼

      Wow that's awesome, I thought we were the only ones whose account just got blocked..
      With PayPal since September 2021, never had a conflict, the account was repeatedly increased for the immediately available amount, restricted 1 month later, then unlocked, amount increased, restricted, unlocked and the whole thing 3x until it was blocked today at around 10:45 p.m.. How also with you, violation of the oh so holy guidelines (which by the way change every 2 weeks 😅)

      Well, I've now written two messages within 10 minutes to 4 different email addresses from PayPal (copy and paste, like PayPal does 😅) you can find all the email addresses here.

      Let's see, will now call PayPal every day until I have someone who has something to say. There is already an appointment with a lawyer 😎

  39. 66fe2203667ef41e97744714d69712dd?s=54&d=mm&r=g
    Nadine April 20, 2022 at 1:23 am - Reply

    This blog is good just because you realize that you are not alone with the problem. Unfortunately, over €28,000 was frozen for me. Based on my experiences here, it seems very likely that I will never see them again. The higher the amount, the sooner it will be withheld. THAT IT IS POSSIBLE IS A MYSTERY TO ME. This is about existence!

    • 66fe2203667ef41e97744714d69712dd?s=54&d=mm&r=g
      Nadine April 20, 2022 at 1:31 am - Reply

      That sounds so loosely written, but that's all my money, which I saved with my self-employment. I am at the end of my strength and do not know how to continue. Not just the money, but also the customers who are now gone (as so many have described). I hope that we can somehow manage to achieve something together, possibly with a class action lawsuit. Something must be possible! That's cheating.

      • 9c6d2c3b1055612cc2ca6b514f5ae7c9? S = 54 & d = mm & r = g
        Lucas April 20, 2022 at 10:56 am - Reply

        Dear Nadine,
        I can understand what you're going through right now. Turn to the EXECUTIVE ESCALATIONS [email protected] respectively. [email protected] and write that you want your money. Then escalate it to the CSSF.

        If you need someone to talk to or if you need help just give me a call.

        Greeting Lucas

  40. f00f63248dbb88508dccae330b02bb08?s=54&d=mm&r=g
    transport consultant May 11, 2022 at 11:16 am - Reply

    Hi! For info …

    My private PayPal account, which I only use for Ebay and Aliexpress, was blocked without any reason and is to be closed. Luckily I don't have any credit on it from a refund. I kept asking why and how to unlock it again. I'm only getting rude copy/paste replies from various PayPal staff.
    I have carried out all the information in these answers and always end up in Nirvana or I get the answer: Sorry, I'm not trained to solve your problem right now, but I'm learning new things every day. Pease try rephrasing the question. – Thank you for contacting PayPal. have a nice day". The end.
    I called twice at my expense and didn't get any information even though I even gave my Visa card number (the last 4 digits).
    The employees are poorly trained, unfriendly and hang up when you ask for an answer.
    It seems to me that it is purely arbitrary !!
    I, too, am now forced to contact the financial supervisory authority CSSF (Commission de Surveillance du Secteur Financier, Luxembourg).
    Something called a bank or money service provider ??
    Kind regards

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